The PP5020AV Chainsaw is an excellent all around medium duty chainsaw ideal for general property management and firewood cutting. It features a 50 cc, 2-cycle engine with Super Clean air filter system, aluminum Professional style clutch cover for more durability, automatic gear driven oil pump, tool-less a ccess to the air filter and spark plug, reduced vibration handle with effortless pull starting system, a double post chain brake for added safety and an on-board locking wrench holder is built into the rear handle. 20 in. bar length. Fully assembled. Includes carry case. 2 year limited warranty.
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61%of customersrecommend this product57 of 94reviews
If you're like me, you read the reviews and notice the distinctive "U" shape: Lots of 5's, and a troubling number of 1's, which may imply a "lemon" problem or an operator issue. Knowing 2-stroke engines and saws, I took a chance.
I hate buying "cheap" tools and I despise overpaying for a good one. The first thing I checked is where it is made. Made in the USA, and owned (now) by Husquverna. I've had few US/Japan/German products that have minor QC issues or rough finish, but never junk. The same cannot be said of products from China/India. This was my primary motivation for giving this one a shot. There were three general issues I saw in the negative reviews, which I address more below: * Running, idling, and bogging issues: This implies tuning issues, though mine worked perfectly out of the box. It idles smoothly and revs cleanly after a brief warmup. No issues starting warm or cold. I was cutting through a 14" log within minutes of filling. I was switching between a Stihl and this saw, and honestly this saw was starting on one pull, and the Stihl needed about 3. (In all fairness, the 50:1 gas for the Stihl was a little more stale than the fresh 40:1 I bought for this saw) * Chain (low quality, a few reports of jumping): This is a low quality chain, which is easily mitigated by a $20 Oregon chain, or better yet, an Oregon $50 Pro-Lite chain/bar combo. Chains stretch, and cheap chains stretch even more. You MUST tighten this chain after 30-40 minutes, whereas higher quality chains are pre-streched. After break-in, it was throwing chips. * Bar oil leaking and over-oiling. There's some truth to heavy oiling, but this is not bad. The correct amount of oil is highly wood-dependent (eg: wet woods tend to wash the oil off), and I'd rather have too much than too little oil. High quality bar oil is $10/gallon. Bar/chain damage is more expensive. * Minor issues in the other reviews: Stuff loosening (Not on mine. Opposite: everything was very gorilla tight).
I also own Stihl. While I do not currently own another comparible class saw to this one, I can make some general observations. Stihl makes their own high quality bars and chains, I think sometimes to force you to go back to the STIHL dealer to get parts, at a greater cost. Their chain offerings are confusing, to say the least.
I purchased a Pro-Lite Oregon bar and chain combo for this PoulanPro saw, because the reviews said that the chain was rather cheap (yep!), and there were a few reports of chains jumping. This added $50 to the cost, but the bar/chain is where the rubber meets the road, so quality is most important here. They are correct: the chain is junky, but does cut (no jumping at all if adjusted properly). It throws smaller chips, and is only able to bog the motor down with high bumper spike pressure. I'm betting the Oregon chain will make it work harder, but I have not yet tried. I'm still trying to burn up the factory bar/chain.
* What are you getting with a Stihl that this saw doesn't have? 1). Mostly, the dealer. When I buy a Stihl, the dealer takes me out back, fires it up, shows me a bunch of features and such, and makes sure that saw is running like a swiss watch. If not, he takes it inside and tweaks it. With PoulanPro, it comes in a box. If you're making money with the saw, the time YOU spend tweaking it is time you could have spent revenueing, so the Stihl premium may pay for itself. 2). The ergonomics on my Stihl are second to none-- Well balanced with all the controls in the right places. 3). Power to weight. Ironically, the "plastic" that people complain about on a cheap saw is even more prevalent on the expensive one, which is how they make it lightweight. My Stihl is light for the power it produces, but all the plastic does give the Stihl a (false) aura of cheap. 4). As mentioned above, a quality bar and chain, but this is easily swapped.
I don't see a major difference in the two brands to indicate one will outlast the other. As others have mentioned, many parts on the PoulanPro are Husquverna parts. The difference is in the dealer experience and the "feel" of the unit. My Stihl is not without problems. For example, the oiler on my Stihl clogs often and generally under-oils on many woods. The dealer says it's normal for certain wood, but it's annoying to stop and clean the bar and/or carry an oil can to manually douse the chain. Reviews of the PoulanPro claim the opposite problem: overoiling. Bar oil is cheap-- I prefer overoiling to underoiling. (I miss the extra manual oilers!)
Are these things worth the extra money? If you use it professionally, having a dealer there to hold your hand may be. If you use it every day, the ergonomics and slightly lighter weight may be important. Given that I could buy three of these for what I paid for a Stihl, the Stihl would not have been the right "investment" for me. The main cost difference is for the dealer. Some people routinely drop $150 on the Stihl dealer for a tuneup (almost the cost of this PoulanPro saw!). If you're making money with it, that service might be worth the time savings. I prefer to spend some "quality time" with my saw in the evening and do it myself. Also, routine maintenance parts for this saw are very reasonably priced and widely available, unlike Stihl.
I won't be getting rid of my Stihls-- They are great saws. But for the money, I won't be parting with this PoulanPro either. The case is nice, and they included 3 oz of 2-stroke oil. Stihls just came with a bar scabbord.
In summary: If you cut a lot of wood, but are not mechanically inclined, then the Stihl dealer will take good care of you for a price. But if you work on your own saws, and you replace the bar/chain with a quality set, you'll be very happy with this Poulan at 1/3 the cost. This is a serious, well-built saw at an incredible value.
I bought this saw yesterday and I cut a tree into pieces with ease. I'm not sure about the long term but if you have a downed tree you need to make it to fire wood this is the saw for you.
Pros: Cuts Well, Easy to Use, Good Size & Weight, Durable, Powerful, Great Engine, Light Weight, Easy to Store
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Review 3 for 20 in. 50 cc Gas Chainsaw
from Mesa AZ
Age Range:45 to 54
Home Improvement Profile:Other
They Don't Make Them Like They Use To!
PostedAugust 24, 2014
Ease of use
No, I do not recommend this product.
I too have been using chainsaws over the last 30+ years. This saw defiantly needs TLC when in use. The saw is a little heavy for cuts above your shoulders. So use caution. The body to me feels a little cheap and loose. I believe the reason for this is to absorb the vibration of the saw. I too, had trouble getting the saw to run after a couple hours of use. Turns out that if you run out of bar chain oil, the saw shuts down or won’t start. Need to check the documentation to see if that is a true statement. Ever since this little discovery, I have been able to keep it running. It is a average chain saw for me. You get what you pay for i guess. Any saw of substance, I would plan on paying 300+
Pros: Cuts Well, Easy to Use, Powerful, Great Engine, tool attach to chain saw, not very loud
Cons: tempermental, leaks a lot of bar oil, case is little big and boxy
I've had this saw since March of this year and have cut down about 20 trees with it and it just keeps going!!!! It's easy to start and maintain. Don't forget to get carb adjusted after the first few hours of use though!!. I cut nothing but hardwood with this saw and as long a you keep a sharp chain on it, it will do what it is supposed to do--CUT WOOD!! The price was right and it is made by Husqvarna.
Pros: Cuts Well, Easy to Use, Sturdy, Good Size & Weight, Durable, Powerful, Easy to Store
I spent a great deal of time reading the good and bad reviews, and being mechanically knowledgeable and on a tight budget I decided to go ahead and buy this saw.
Sure enough, right out of the box it wouldn't start or run at all. A few coughs, pops and backfires was all I got after 20 minutes of trying. Before admitting defeat and returning it however, I thought I owed it at least an equal amount of time in basic troubleshooting as I did cursing and grumbling.
Two stroke motors are simple- they need only spark, air, fuel and compression to run. Pulling the plug told me it had fuel as it was wet. A quick pull on the starter with the plug out and grounded on the head showed me a weak and intermittent spark. Additionally, backfiring on engines is almost always attributable to spark or timing issues. I decided to pull the starter cover off and have a peek at the ignition coil and flywheel.
Once the yellow outer cover is removed (4 screws), there is a black plastic shroud that sits behind it, around the flywheel and over the coil. Upon lifting that off, I immediately saw a wire coming from the coil pinched by that cover against a ground wire also coming from the coil and connected to the kill switch. Closer inspection revealed that the insulation of the wire was cut and that it was grounding out on the other connector, essentially applying the kill switch periodically. I separated the two wires sufficiently enough to allow me to add a rubber insulator around the damaged wire, put it all back together and guess what- that baby fired right up on the very first pull!
I ran a tank of fuel through it (32:1- the instructions suggest 40:1 but that isn't enough oil for breaking in a new motor) and it ran almost perfect- just a slight bog when whacking the throttle wide open from idle. I decided that it was a bit lean on the bottom (low speed); so when I stopped to re-fuel, re-oil and adjust the chain, I used some forceps to reach in and open the low speed mixture screw about a quarter turn. I also noticed that the air filter was hardly sealed to the manifold- add some grease to the groove around the filter plastic so it seals to the plastic manifold attached to the carb.
Fired up first pull again after these tweaks and sitting for about 30 mins- it's good to heat cycle a motor when breaking it in. Ran much much better- perfectly as far as I am concerned- for two more tanks of fuel.
I am very happy with this saw- having owned nothing but worn out, under powered second-hand saws up until now, it is wonderful to have a saw a new and as powerful as this one. There is no doubt some quality control issues and for anyone not mechanically experienced, it would have been a deal breaker and a one star review. Hopefully this review helps someone get theirs running right without returning it and getting frustrated like so many others! Another interesting fact- all of the major components are stamped with the Husqvarna "H" (muffler, clutch cover, carb manifold, etc).
Pros: Cuts Well, Good Size & Weight, Powerful, Great Engine
Cons: definite quality control issues at assembly.
I bought this chainsaw against my better judgment and boy am I glad. Took it out gased and oiled it as required. One pull and boom it fired up. I ran 10 tanks of fuel through it and not one problem. I have cut up 30 trees into firewood. I am considering buying another for the future do to the fact that in a few years prices will be way higher. Buy it it's worth every penny. Just pay attention and maintain your saw and it will do wonders for you.
This is a good value for a chainsaw. Pros: Decent power for cutting big logs. Weight is not too bad for this price range
Cons: This saw requires lots of TLC. The air filter clip holds it in place but not very securely. When the filter starts getting clogged, dust will slip past the filter and enter the engine. Clean the filter after every hour of use or you will ruin the engine! Lots of things to wear out. After the warranty runs out, expect to be taking it apart, cleaning and fixing things frequently. In my case, I fount the nuts holding the carburetor in place started coming loose all the time. The throttle-trigger linkage has a plastic part that wears out pretty quickly and needs to be replaced often. The Off switch needs to be cleaned because it stops working when dust collects in it. None of these are major repairs and can be easily performed DIY but the frequency of repairs is down right inconvenient!
This is a very good chainsaw that just needs some tweaking and an informed user to operate properly,
There are 2 problems I noticed on mine that I think compose a good deal of the complaints I've read online about this saw and its twin the craft$man 35098. The first is the carb needed minor adjustment and the second is the short length of the starter pull cord.
The carb issue makes the saw bog down once warmed up and then eventually stall. Restarting is only possible after saw is cooled down, but the problem reoccurs once warm again (this happens even in low altitude). To remedy this on mine, I ran the engine until the bogging began then turned the LOW SPEED screw counterclockwise while revving the engine up and down until the motor responded without hesitation. Note that the low (& high) speed screws are tamper-resistant but can be turned with the proper tool, or you can make something homemade as I did (a female solderless disconnect jammed on the end of a small screwdriver worked). Since I made this adjustment, I have run my saw probably over 10 hours now and have had no engine issues whatsoever.
The second problem, the short starter cord, makes it VERY EASY to "overpull" the cord beyond its travel length. Pulling too far is probably the biggest reason starter mechanisms like this fail. Be mindful of that when starting this thing and keep your pulls to the bare minimum. At the same time (as with any small engine) do not put much pulling force into the cord until you feel the starter pawl engage the flywheel.
So far, I have been very happy with this saw even when using cheap 87 octane. I've used both Husqvarnas and Stihls and can say this one is pretty close in quality/performance to those brands. I decided to "downgrade" from the big boys was because I got tired of paying an arm and a leg for parts and/or being forced to buy them only from a high markup dealer. One thing I do miss on this saw that the other guys have is a replaceable rim sprocket design. The Poulan combines the sprocket and clutch in one piece, which not only makes it more difficult to replace, but also makes you replace more than is usually necessary.
There are several small gripes I have with the saw worth mentioning, The first is that the base of the air filter where it mates to the carb intake does not make an air tight seal, even when it's locked in place with its retaining clip. Over time, I could see fine sawdust working its way possibly mucking up engine. The problem is easily patched, however, just by adding a small loop of weather-stripping into the underside of the filter. The other complaint is that I found one of the screws on the exterior only threaded halfway in. I tightened it and went over the other exterior ones, but it made me wonder how well the fasteners deeper down were secured.
The bumper spike is a most welcome addition. I’ve had ZERO issues with my saw throwing a chain, even when I've left some slack in it,
This is not the saw for a arborist or for the average home owner its for land owners and wood heat families . It burns gas like an 1980 K25 but pulls just as hard. I started with the leftovers from tree trimming ranging from 10" up to a massive 26" in diameter and all 12 feet long and it turned it all into fire wood rounds in minuets. Out of the box is could use a slight tune to even the top end out but man this this is powerful. YOU CAN NOT GET A SAW FOR BIG WOOD FOR THIS PRICE FROM ANY OTHER BRAND. I burn wood as my primary and in years past I would rent a big saw for the logs to big for my PP3516. Now I look back and see I could have bought 3 of these for the money spent.
Pros: Cuts Well, Easy to Use, Sturdy, Powerful, Great Engine, big block power
I have owned and used chainsaws for 35 years, In my youth I spent 2 years as a topper jack. When my 20 year old McCullogh finally wore out, I picked this up exchanged one and returned the second within 8 hours. It starts hard when cold, will not start when warm, tried one and the chain jumped , found the weak bar to have been deformed, exchanged it, only to find the same cold start issue (but at least it started eventually) then proceeded to spend the next 3 hours fighting warm starts, When I returned it, the sales associate said he would put it with the rest of them to be returned....Found that Husqvarna (they make Poulan) discontinued this model. Spend a little more and get the Echo,
Cons: Difficult to Use, Not Durable, fails to start
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Review 12 for 20 in. 50 cc Gas Chainsaw
Not enough power
PostedMay 3, 2015
No, I do not recommend this product.
I bought this saw to cut down a 13 inch diameter pine tree. Did not have enough power and I had to return it. I also tried it on smaller aspen trees. Worked ok on small trees under 5 inches in diameter.
Made four trips to Town 50 Miles round trip.. Wished I had read the reviews first Pure PARC! Been around Chainsaws all my life.. Hard to start cold, won't start warm, wont idle must keep rpm up to keep running. Returned next day. Thought it was a bad saw - Nope the second one did the same thing too. The salesman said he had the same issues with this saw when he bought one.. He won't sell them and pushes the other brands. Wish I talked to him the first day.
I'm a country boy and couldn't live without my pickup and chainsaw. However, I'm not going to pay extra for just a name. I demand durability, and even though I hate plastic, I'll live with it if it brings the price down and still functions. But above all, I want a chainsaw that starts and runs when I need it. I bought the PP5020 because I also have a chainsaw called the "Wildthing" by the same company that I fell in love with it because it started well and was easy to maintain. Its big brother did not let me down! In fact, the PP5020 is even easier to start, I kid you not. In fact, the ease of starting kind of surprised me. I loved it! You should read the manual or spend a few minutes studying the chainsaw before you try and start it. It is different than the "Wildthing." Another thing, the chain itself appears to be of a slightly higher quality than what I expected. I just downed a 80-100 foot Walnut, cleaned it up, and the chain is still really sharp! Does it have any drawbacks. Maybe. It burns gas quicker than my other chainsaws, but who cares. It runs and starts easily and is a lot more powerful. It definitely isn't afraid of work. It may also be too heavy for some small stature women to use. Many of my friends use the competitor's models, but we all chop down the same trees, and no one is cutting wood any faster than me. I have a collection of chainsaws, but this isn't a collector's piece; this one is a worker, a real keeper for the price.
Pros: Cuts Well, Easy to Use, Powerful, starts easily
This chainsaw needs constant adjustment. It is not a good saw for heavy use. I have purchased three new blades and several new chains in last two years I am, in fact, looking to get a better chainsaw and I assure you it will not be a Poulan.
Bought one this past Saturday. Read the owners manual and warmed it up and put it away. Went out Sunday morning to cut a few fallen trees off of my trails. Got 4 cuts and the bar clogged and the chain jammed. FOUR CUTS. So I came back down to the house took it apart and cleaned the bar and put it back together and tightened the chain. Went back up to the property and got 7 more cuts before it jammed again. This time I couldn't even get the bar off to clean it. Took it back and went to Ace and spent nearly $500 on a Stihl. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON THIS JUNK!!!!
Have only used this saw for one session, but am already very impressed with the quality and features. Handles well, good power and very comfortable to use. Note- The spark plug cap was not properly attached when I first tried starting the saw. Make sure to give everything a once over before starting the first time. Will save you 10 minutes of frustration.
Pros: Durable, Powerful, Cuts Well, Easy to Use, Good Size & Weight, Easy to Store
Looked like it was well made, but would not keep running
PostedMarch 28, 2015
No, I do not recommend this product.
After researching several saws I decided to go with the Poulan 20 in 50cc chainsaw based on the current 4 star rating. I only planned on using for occasional pruning and small tree removal as a homeowner with a small yard, but decided to get a Pro model for the perceived reliability. I purchased the "canned" premixed 40:1 fuel at Home Depot along with the chainsaw. Got it home, read all the instructions, and started it up. Easy to start, but would not keep running. It would run up to about 30 seconds, but only by pulling the choke in and out to keep it going. After numerous try's and a cooling off period in between, still no luck. So I returned to Home Depot the same day I bought it. Easy return process, but they needed me to empty the fuel before they could accept the return. They even refunded the price of the half full fuel can. So back to researching or maybe just buying a new chain for my old Remington electric chain saw.
I have never used a chainsaw before so I did my research and purchased this one. I lost 10-12 75'-100' trees over the winter so I was using this to saw those trees into logs and I did not drop any trees with it. I read the directions, bought the bar oil and immediately began sawing up logs anywhere from 6" diameter to 30". I had no problems. After about 15-20 minutes the chain needed to be tightened but the directions said this would occur. The chainsaw started after 5-7 pulls like instructions said it would and I was continually letting it idle or was turning it on/off as I was moving the logs around. No problems cuttting, no problems with it running/idling correctly. Great deal for the money and easy enough to use for a novice.