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Frost King 60 ft. Roof De-Icing Cable Kit

The Thermwell Products Co., Inc 60 ft. Roof De-Icing Cable Kit can be used to keep gutters and downspouts flowing and help prevent ice from forming under the edge of your shingles. This de-icing kit installs easily and comes with shingle clips.
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What is the power consumption of the 80 ft. cable? (How many watts does it use?)

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Rich
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January 3, 2013
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maniman
rochester, ny
January 6, 2013
this product uses 5 watts per foot so for 80 ft you're looking at 400 watts
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January 6, 2013
This cable is 5 watts per foot
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How many "lineal" feet with WWWWWW installation does 60 feet of cable do>?

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Chautauquan
Rochester, NY
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October 15, 2012
Installing on the roof edge with a WWWW pattern, how many feet of cable do I need for about 20 feet of roof and one downspout (10')
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WeatherstripExpert
October 23, 2012
You will need Approx. 80 feet of roof Cable to do 20 feet with downspout.
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maniman
rochester, ny
January 6, 2013
I'd seriously suggest you look up Frost King item 23985 on the Northern Tool + Equipment site or the manufacturer and read/ download the manual. it's not as simple as "how much it will cover" as there is a lot of factors
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john
California, USA
February 26, 2013
This would depend on how big the WWWW or span between each W-W -W do the math.
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How do you install the cable in a down spot that runs into a french drain? Do you need to disconnect the french drain in the winter?

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Derf
Herriman, UT
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December 17, 2013
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
December 18, 2013
Follow the directions in the box for downspouts. you do not have to disconnect the French drain.
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WeatherstripExpert
January 23, 2014
The instructions that come with the cable explain how to install in a down spout. No there is no need to disconnect the French drain if you are using the roof cable kit.
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can this be used to keep outdoor sump pump PCV pipes from freezing

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scooter
Appleton, Wisconsin
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November 4, 2013
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
November 5, 2013
Roof Cable kits will not work on Pipes.
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Daveb369
January 28, 2014
Product is not designed for that usuage.
There is a product at Home Depot that is for pipe wrapping.
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Can this heat cable be used on cedar wood roof?

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Moose
Minnesota
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August 20, 2013
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New Jersey
August 21, 2013
These Roof Cable Kits will only work on shingles , not Cedar Wood.
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Daveb369
January 28, 2014
That roof should be okay with this product as long as you follow the manufacturer's recomendations as to when to supply power to the cable.
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Can it be used with a metal roof?

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bur
warrenton, MO
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February 25, 2013
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john
California, USA
February 26, 2013
I don't see why not. The cable is coated so no conductive parts are exposed, unless otherwise posted on the box or instructions you should be able to use on metal roof. I would just remove in hotter season.
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OldJoe
Fairfield County, CT
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February 20, 2014
It will probably work even better on metal. Just make sure the wire goes 3-6" beyond the edge and that if you've got gutters, line the bottom with the tape as the instruction show. However, be very mindful of the electric bill costs with the system. Metal roofs really shouldn't need these installed, depending on the seaming when the roof was installed
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Can this cable be used to keep snow off solar panels?

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Nenny911
Syracuse, NY
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January 24, 2014
Can this cable be attached to solar panels without damaging either item?
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
January 25, 2014
Do not install Roof Cable Kits on solar panels.
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Daveb369
January 28, 2014
I believe so. Just do not use it when temp outside is above 50 degrees.
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OldJoe
Fairfield County, CT
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February 20, 2014
Depending on the amount of snow your trying to clear, probably not a good choice for solar. I know solar panels heat up just fine in when these are exposed, so perhaps the little channels provided by the wire/tape will accelerate the panel's clearing. However, I've got to believe there are better products or systems (maybe a well placed and protected blower utilizing attic space heat).
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Can this be used for water pipes

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roundguy
vernon,new york
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January 10, 2014
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
January 10, 2014
This is not made for water lines.
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WeatherstripExpert
January 23, 2014
No, this product is intended for use on roofs and gutters-not water pipes.
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OldJoe
Fairfield County, CT
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February 20, 2014
Use the heat tapes designed for pipe heating. The thermostats are quite different and this deicing cables are not designed to 'touch' each other or get bent to the degree necessary in wrapping pipe.
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How long can you run the heat tapes, in terms of time?

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Mac612
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December 29, 2013
Can they run for 2 hrs, 4 hrs, etc before they overheat?
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
January 2, 2014
Roof Cable Kits will not overheat, so they can run as long as needed to keep snow and ice off the roof.
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New Jersey
January 23, 2014
You can leave them plugged in all year if you like, however, it is advisable to unplug after the last snow of the year has melted.
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OldJoe
Fairfield County, CT
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February 20, 2014
You can run the normal cables constantly in temperatures below freezing. Just get ready for the electric bill.
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What is the rating of this cable in watts?

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Dukie
Maine
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January 6, 2014
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
January 7, 2014
5 watts per foot or 300 Watts total.
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Daveb369
January 28, 2014
amperage will depend upon the length of cable used.
The exact amps is spelled out in the instruction pamphlet.
On the 60 ft. cable, the amps consumed is around 3.4
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OldJoe
Fairfield County, CT
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February 20, 2014
The amperage is more useful measure. The cables will vary in draw from 2 to 8 amps depending on length. Just remember to look at the circuit the cables are on (15 or 20 amp) before deciding how many cables you can install. Instructions will recommend different or dedicated use outlets for each cable, which is seldom possible. (if you don't have amperage ratings listed there are conversion tables on the internet to go from watts to amps)
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can the 60ft be used with an extention cord if there is no other option?

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sickofwinter
ny
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February 28, 2014
I know it says not recommended but if that is the only option for the moment can it be done, and would there be a specific length or gauge cord not to exceed, thanks
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Daveb369
Chicago, IL
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March 3, 2014
Manufacturer recommends to plug directly into a 120 volt A/C outdoor receptacle and not use an extension cord. If this is not practical, you may want to contact technical assistance 800/562-6587.
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
March 3, 2014
It can be used with either a 10 or 12 gauge extension, but it is not recommended.
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OldJoe
Fairfield County, CT
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March 11, 2014
Just make a 12 gauge exterior cord and check for wear at the end of each season. It's best to remove the extension cord each spring to minimize the weathering effects. (14 gauge would work as well, in a shorter length though)
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Should roof deicer cables be turned on during a snowstorm?

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Snooze
Utica NY
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February 7, 2013
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maniman
rochester, ny
February 9, 2013
It's not a matter of a snowstorm as it is temperature. When its high enough for roof melting to occur 'naturally' then yes...turn it on- commonly near 35 degF. It should be kept on until extreme cold or about 20 degF. Below that temp (and colder) the melting shouldn't occur and is thus unnecessary
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
February 11, 2013
Yes they can be on during snowstorms
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Daveb369
Chicago, IL
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March 28, 2014
It is okay to activate the cable during a snowstorm. Operating outside temperature range of 15 and 35 degrees is recommended. The cable should be turned off when the melt/freeze conditions stop, usually above 35 degrees, and left off unitl the melt/freeze conditions returns.
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I assume this cable has a built-in thermostat. If so, can the thermostat be removed and the product be controlled by plugging it in when neede

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Wetcourts
San Francisco, CA
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March 28, 2014
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Daveb369
Chicago, IL
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March 28, 2014
The product does not come with a built in thermostat. Plugging the cable into a circuit of a maximum 20 amp breaker will activate the cable. The cable will warm and continue to do so until it is unplugged.
The cable should not be sliced into and should be plugged into a ground-fault protected receptacle.
The cable is not meant to be used on slate, stone, metal and ceramic roofs.
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New Jersey
March 29, 2014
The roof cable does not have a built in thermostat, and yes it can be controlled by pluging and unplugging it into a GFI outlet.
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Can it be ran off 208 - 220 volt outlet? vs 120v?

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Robert
Upstate New York
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June 2, 2014
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June 3, 2014
No, this product can only be used on 120 volts.
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
June 3, 2014
no, it can only run on 120 volt.
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is it okay to just lay the cord in the gutter

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hummer
roseland nj
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August 24, 2014
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New Jersey
August 25, 2014
These Cable Kits are constructed to also be used in Gutters and will work quite well there.
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can this be put in a short gutter and inside of a downspot?

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grandpabutch
Grove City Oh
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September 6, 2014
We have a 30 inch gutter with a downspot that freezes in the winter and we get ice all over the sidewalk. The water runs off of a rubber roof into the this gutter. Please advise
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New Jersey
September 8, 2014
Yes, you can use the Roof Cable Kit in the gutter and Downspout.
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Can this be placed under steel roofing?

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September 14, 2014
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New Jersey
September 15, 2014
Do not use on Metal roofing.
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Shorter Cable Length

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Ralph
white plains, ny
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September 18, 2014
Can the Frost King 60ft cable be cut to a shorter length? If so, does the manufacturer provide cutting instructions so that the cable will function properly?
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New Jersey
September 20, 2014
This product cannot be cut. If it is cut it will short out.
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How is installation different if I have a leaf guard?

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Neuf
Boston, MA
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September 21, 2014
I have a leaf guard system over my gutters where this would be installed so I'm unable to put anything inside of it. How does that affect the installation?
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HDAnswerman
September 23, 2014
Hi Neuf,

This product is designed to be placed on the roof and run in the gutters as well as in the downspouts.

So you will have to remove your gutter guards to install the product.

However you may be able modify the gutter guards to accept
this product.

Mike
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how do I repair a damaged or cut cable

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Stude
Clarkston Michigan
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September 26, 2014
contractor installed mine landscaper cut the heated cable
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WeatherstripExpert
New Jersey
September 28, 2014
A damaged, cut roof cable kit cannot be repaired. It will need to be replaced.
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